Prickle | 3 comments | 2 weeks ago
The touch screen being the major control method for many things including the act of putting the car in reverse, is just bad.
The handles being electric, instead of mechanical. (An issue with many modern electric cars actually)
The wheel, not being a wheel. (Although I like that they tried something new)
m463 | 1 comment | 2 weeks ago
I also think the 3/y/truck displays are really cluttered, trying to share status and controls on the same screen with small touch targets.
I think tesla has lost its way. They went past simple/elegant to confused deletion of the bathwater, the baby and the diapers.
I figure that tesla is doing all the other manufacturers a favor - they can enter the market and compete by just listening to customers, and adding thoughtful nice features.
goldcd | 0 comments | 2 weeks ago
drops mic
FeloniousHam | 2 comments | 2 weeks ago
It only takes a couple drives to get used the old-fashioned, unintuitive, massive array of buttons :).
(seriously)
Prickle | 1 comment | 2 days ago
FeloniousHam | 1 comment | 2 days ago
I listen to a couple auto podcasts (shout out to Autoline After Hours!), and every episode bemoans the loss of buttons. I guess you just have to drive a Tesla for a few days to appreciate what you're not missing.
Prickle | 0 comments | 16 hours ago
I relatively consistently mistype on a touch screen keyboard. That's not too much of an issue.
However, me taking my eyes off the road in a car, (stationary or not) to fiddle with a touchscreen is a major risk. I personally just enjoy the fine tuning I can do with physical controls. And the best part, I don't need to look at the control to use it. With a touch screen, sight is a requirement.
justin66 | 0 comments | 2 weeks ago
If you'd like to do a more meaningful comparison, Mazda might be interesting, since they do focus on simplicity and use real buttons and switches.
magic_smoke_ee | 1 comment | 2 weeks ago
omnimus | 0 comments | 2 weeks ago
MPSimmons | 2 comments | 2 weeks ago
devnulll | 0 comments | 2 weeks ago
I took a long look at the Taycan as the used ones are "almost" sensibly priced but the first 2 generations are simply not great cars. The new 2025 (3rd Gen) is much nicer but the pricing is doesn't make sense.
Hopefully 2-3 years from now brings a much bigger diversity of performance electric cars. The BYD sports cars look very interesting.
relyks | 1 comment | 2 weeks ago
dzhiurgis | 0 comments | 2 weeks ago
rehash3 | 2 comments | 2 weeks ago
llm_trw | 0 comments | 2 weeks ago
>In other words—and this is the rock-solid principle that underpins their entire facade—their most profound character flaws are entirely masked by the sheer distraction of their glaringly obvious, superficial character flaws.
This quote was transformed using a transformer.
pokstad | 0 comments | 2 weeks ago
Scottn1 | 1 comment | 2 weeks ago
I am currently shopping for alternatives and would gladly trade mine in even at a small loss. I wasn't a fan of his before, really, but didn't pay much to it, his company produces a product I drive.
My M3 is the most buggy car I ever owned and has had warranty service three times in that year. Little stuff like seat-belt sensor warning, window switch and foam-dislodging in one of the tires causing major shaking at speed. Service department has been friendly as they come out to my house for two of them, so that is nice. They also quickly gave me a loaner for the tire issue without even prying. The road noise is also horrible on the car. Way worse than even my Mazda6 I had before it. Whistles in the driver window area on the highway. Lose pillar trim.
But I'm not finding much STILL that competes with Tesla in the USA really. In price or looks as an EV. I still love the way it drives/handles and would have a difficult time leaving EV back to ICE at this point. I haven't had to change oil, stop for gas, check fluids, etc.
cmckn | 0 comments | 2 weeks ago
Edit: the rear too! Thank god
tzs | 1 comment | 2 weeks ago
• Is this replacing the current Model Y or will it be offered in addition to the current Y?
• Looking at the differences between the current and new, I'm having trouble seeing what justifies a $15k higher price, but I'm not really a fancy car guy (I've driven a 2006 Honda CR-V for 19 years) so may be underestimating how desirable some of the new features are.
It looks like the differences are ventilated front seats, rear seats are power folding instead of manual, added a touchscreen to the back row, updated suspension and noise reduction, 8 cameras instead of 7, 15 speakers instead of 7 to 13 in the old models, hands free trunk opening, aluminum instead of wood interior detailing and wrap-around ambient lighting, second row air vents are now power actuated, and there's in infrared reflective coating on the glass.
Are some of those a much bigger deal than I guess they are? Or is this one of those "they are all little, but a whole bunch of little things can add up to making the experience a whole lot better" situations?
• The prices listed, $31490 for the current modem and $46490 are the prices after estimated savings. Those savings are the $7500 tax credit and $6000 estimated saving in gas over 5 years.
Is it normal to include estimated gas savings in the price? When I've looked at dealers or manufacturers sites for other cars I think I've usually seen the tax credit included but don't recall seeing gas savings included.
I'd prefer that gas savings not be included, because that is too dependent on how much you drive. I don't drive a lot. Over the last five years I've driven 7382.2 miles spending $1639.62 for gas. I just want to know for any car I'm looking at what I'm going to pay to drive it off the lot.
bryanlarsen | 0 comments | 2 weeks ago
dzhiurgis | 0 comments | 2 weeks ago
Stalks should’ve been an option as steering wheel buttons are clearly future.
Putting more screens without ability to shut them off pisses me off.
Ventilated seats big one that was missing.
zfg | 1 comment | 2 weeks ago
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/20/trump-elo...
Especially in Europe.
Gibbon1 | 0 comments | 2 weeks ago
Oh right Moral Turpitude.
ClassyJacket | 0 comments | 2 weeks ago
In right hand drive countries, the indicator and mode change are now on the same side, so you have to do them with the same hand one after the other.
neilv | 2 comments | 2 weeks ago
TulliusCicero | 2 comments | 2 weeks ago
Gibbon1 | 0 comments | 2 weeks ago
neilv | 2 comments | 2 weeks ago
kvirani | 1 comment | 2 weeks ago
neilv | 1 comment | 2 weeks ago
I wonder whether the former would eventually get your car vandalized (or road-raged), and whether the latter would seem half-hearted.
zfg | 1 comment | 2 weeks ago
https://heatmap.news/electric-vehicles/anti-elon-bumper-stic...
magic_smoke_ee | 0 comments | 2 weeks ago
- Funding civilians in war-torn areas like legit Kyiv Ukrainian addresses
- 3D-printed vintage car parts
- Handmade confrontational ceramics spicing up mundane objects like coffee mugs
- Ultra-niche items corporate retailers refuse to carry due to the ruthless tyranny of SKU profit maximization
- And, of course, anti-establishment bumper stickers suitable for the petite et moyenne bourgeoisie
laweijfmvo | 2 comments | 2 weeks ago
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zfg | 1 comment | 2 weeks ago
Musk has made himself synonymous with the Tesla brand. Buying Tesla means supporting Musk, whether you want it to or not.
laweijfmvo | 1 comment | 2 weeks ago
zfg | 0 comments | 2 weeks ago
These days being associated with Musk in any way is going to make you look bad. Musk goes out of his way to make sure you look bad.
He's trying Nazi jokes now: https://www.axios.com/2025/01/23/elon-musk-nazi-joke-adl