1561 Celestial Phenomenon over Nuremberg
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jl6 | 0 comments | 19 minutes ago
Sounds like a meteor leaving a smoke trail. Perhaps a fireball that broke up into multiple smaller fireballs. The rest of the account could be embellishments on top of this.
IlikeKitties | 1 comment | 13 hours ago
> Magin concludes by pointing out that reports of supposed “battles in the sky” were already very popular in antiquity and especially in the Middle Ages and were written down in astonishingly large numbers and distributed on leaflets and woodcuts. At this time, the Christian religion had a great influence on the everyday lives and world view of ordinary people and interpreted celestial phenomena of all kinds as “divine miraculous signs” or “warning signs from God”. Accordingly, the illustrations are littered with Christian symbols. Pious people saw themselves “admonished by God” through such leaflets and miracle reports to confess and remain faithful to him. A report such as Glaser's would therefore come as no surprise, as the people of his time would have known how to interpret the leaflet correctly.
rvba | 0 comments | 5 hours ago
tomohelix | 2 comments | 14 hours ago
If not, then this is likely unreliable and likely as good as fiction.
layer8 | 0 comments | 14 hours ago
Hardly anyone nowadays takes them at face value, but it’s also not completely clear what exactly inspired them.
robwwilliams | 0 comments | 13 hours ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1566_celestial_phenomenon_over...
someuser54541 | 1 comment | 13 hours ago
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LargoLasskhyfv | 0 comments | 10 hours ago
empath75 | 3 comments | 12 hours ago
There's not really enough information presented to know if this is even a faithful recounting of what witnesses say they saw, though. We don't know if the publisher was more like the NY Times or more like the Weekly World News. Did it regular publish fanciful accounts of the supernatural? I suspect that it did. This was right at the birth of the modern era when modern science was just getting started, but also while witch trials were going on, and this reads just like the fanciful accusations of sorcery and witchcraft against people that were common at the time. And also in the middle of the Reformation, when religious conflicts were at the forefront of people's minds. A war in the heavens would have reflected the war of faith on earth that was going on at the same time.
This is one of those niche topics that Wikipedia is just awful at because the only people interested in editing it are going to be people who have a particular interpretation of it. This is interesting psychologically and historically because it tells us something about how people used symbolism and interpreted "signs" in the sky, but it tells us absolutely _nothing_ of value about what anybody migh have seen or not seen on that day.
Edit: Also -- keep in mind that the early days of the printing press had a similar impact at the time to social media today. An absolute deluge of bullshit, fraud and scams unleashed on a naive population who trusted everything they saw in print and didn't have the tools to distinguish truth from falsehood. You'd think after 500 years people would be better at it.
ricksunny | 0 comments | 6 hours ago
ozim | 0 comments | 10 hours ago
That’s a nice thread to put the same comment there.
Some people think BS all around in writing is as recent as last 2 decades.
LargoLasskhyfv | 1 comment | 9 hours ago
Since we have only a single source, maybe even much later, after the fact, we can't triangulate like with the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Norwegian_spiral_anomaly
'War in the heavens' doesn't have to mean LEO, or outer space, as we understand it now. Could have been aerobatics only a few miles up, for all we know. Or a homecoming Vimana suffering from bird strike of its crystal drive, venting some really hot uranium hexaflouride out of its https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_lightbulb and spewing chaff and flares, because of protocol over strange grounds, or something like that.
strictnein | 1 comment | 4 hours ago
I kind of like that idea that aliens showed up because from light years away the planet looked empty (no radio emissions). They come into land and "oh shit!" realize they're about to come into contact with some primitive sentient beings.
consp | 0 comments | 31 minutes ago
LargoLasskhyfv | 0 comments | 10 hours ago
Singing Ghost Riders in the Sky, Yippie, Yah, Haa...